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    Season 13

    Eliminate the need for having both 2's and 3's rating over 2000, have it be like s12 where you can have one or the other, and reduce the price of it/add other means of getting tokens.

    Having a 2's requirement on a server where there's no more than 3 or 4 "active" 2's teams MAX is ridiculous lol. Having it be like s12 where you can have either 2k 2's or 2k 3's rating would be fine.



    Reduce the price of season 13 and add other means of getting tokens, because it currently costs over 110,000 to get full s13, add other ways to get tokens, like with s11/s12. s11/12 currently have quests where you can get tokens by getting 5 wins in arenas, and how you can turn in bg tokens to get s11/12 tokens aswell.

    To put it into perspective of how funny it is currently to gear full s13:
    Imagine releasing tier 9, and then over a year later, still not one single person on the entire server has full t9, that would be crazy, but yet that is the case for s13.

    Last edited by lordvolom1; 07-26-2018 at 01:18 PM.

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    hey man no stop i like being one of the 5 players than can buy s13

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    Yeah that is crazy, not a single person has full s13 after a year.. that shit is beyond me and I like the comparison to pve tiers lol I think people would have gone nuts.

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    So please post your suggested prices and rating for each set/part. In last thread players had various opinions.

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    Head: 4740 AP(430 tokens)
    Neck: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Shoulder: 3750 AP(340 tokens)
    Cloak: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Chest: 4300 AP(390 tokens)
    Wrist: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Hands: 3750 AP(340 tokens)
    Waist: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Legs: 4300 AP(390 tokens)
    Boots: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Rings: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Trinkets: 4500 AP(410 tokens)
    One handed weapons: 5500 AP(500 tokens)
    Off handed weapons: 2140 AP(195tokens)
    Two handed weapons/ranged: 7940 AP(720 tokens)
    Offhands: 2500 AP(230 tokens)
    Wands: 3500 AP(320 tokens)


    Rating requirements:
    Head: 1950
    Shoulder: 2000
    Chest: 1700
    Legs: 1650
    Gloves: 1600
    Trinkets: 1750
    Weapons/offhands 2000
    Wand 1800


    This needs to be a 2v2 or 3v3 rating not both.


    Here is an imaginary EST for how long it will take.
    If you do CTA for a whole week and get flush(1k arena points) you will get 2750 AP
    Not including pvp quests


    Total price for a full set 64305(this is without considering pve pieces)
    Estimated time for full s13: 22 weeks.
    Current time for a full set: 129k AP= 46 weeks
    I did not include ranged weapon cost in any calculations. No1 uses that thats why.
    I halved the current prices and corrected it to look more like wotlk pricings, and I feel like this would be the magic number. It is still a lot of AP, but considering there is pvp quests and 250 AP CTA's this seems fair to me. But let me know what you guys think

    I also want to make sure everyone understands the prices. 22 weeks is for FULL pvp both weps and full set. Realisticly for a player using more pve its going to take less than 15 weeks

    There are also a lot of people wanting to add pvp quests for s13 like the ones for s12 and s11 arena win quests. I totally support this, but it's up to the staff

    And a lot of players really like the orange colour, so can we have legendary s13 items please?
    Last edited by Kwesi; 07-26-2018 at 08:40 PM. Reason: Changed pvp weapons prices as opinion is theyre too pricy compared to spellcasters not having to use them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwesi View Post
    Head: 4740 AP(430 tokens)
    Neck: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Shoulder: 3750 AP(340 tokens)
    Cloak: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Chest: 4300 AP(390 tokens)
    Wrist: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Hands: 3750 AP(340 tokens)
    Waist: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Legs: 4300 AP(390 tokens)
    Boots: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Rings: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Trinkets: 4500 AP(410 tokens)
    One handed weapons: 6600 AP(600 tokens)
    Off handed weapons: 2740(250 tokens)
    Two handed weapons/ranged: 9340 AP(850 tokens)
    Offhands: 2500 AP(230 tokens)
    Wands: 3500 AP(320 tokens)


    Rating requirements:
    Head: 1950
    Shoulder: 2000
    Chest: 1700
    Legs: 1650
    Gloves: 1600
    Trinkets: 1750
    Weapons/offhands 2000
    Wand 1800


    This needs to be a 2v2 or 3v3 rating not both.


    Here is an imaginary EST for how long it will take.
    If you do CTA for a whole week and get flush(1k arena points) you will get 2750 AP
    Not including pvp quests


    Total price for a full set 64305(this is without considering pve pieces)
    Estimated time for full s13: 23 weeks.
    Current time for a full set: 129k AP= 46 weeks
    I did not include ranged weapon cost in any calculations. No1 uses that thats why.
    I halved the current prices and corrected it to look more like wotlk pricings, and I feel like this would be the magic number. It is still a lot of AP, but considering there is pvp quests and 250 AP CTA's this seems fair to me. But let me know what you guys think

    The only thing I would change is make the price for 2h's 6250 arena points max, as 9k ap is really high for 1 item, and make the price for 1h weapons 5k.

    I think this is more than fair and well thought out. Having it finally be realistically obtainable after this would actually make people want to pvp more. +10000

    Hopefully once this is dealt with and s13 quests are added to give tokens we can also open the discussion of the pvp gear overhaul that is also long overdue.
    Last edited by lordvolom1; 07-26-2018 at 04:33 PM.

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    In my opinion the duration to obtain full S13 would be still too high. I mean I get that there is higher CTA, more flush than regular and some pvp quests. But at the end of the day 23 weeks for a full set on 1 (ONE) character when you do CTA 7 days a week, and every flush is just absurd.

    What I really want to mention in here is that no matter what happens to S13, it will not really affect PvP.

    A player with T8.5/S12 gear will always have way better stats (more damage, healing, HP, survivability) than somebody with T5.5/S13 gear.

    The difference between S12 and S13 is minor, for the whole set it maybe changes for like 30k SP while 1 piece of PvE already does 50k.

    Think about it like this: As a PvP player you are in need of completing ALL AVAILABLE content of PvE players, in order to be competitive in PvP. This comparison might sound stupid but it is like PvE players would need to farm 65k AP to be able to do PvE competitive.
    Last edited by Xyrez; 07-26-2018 at 02:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyrez View Post
    In my opinion the duration to obtain full S13 would be still too high. I mean I get that there is higher CTA, more flush than regular and some pvp quests. But at the end of the day 23 weeks for a full set on 1 (ONE) character when you do CTA 7 days a week, and every flush is just absurd.

    What I really want to mention in here is that no matter what happens to S13, it will not really affect PvP.

    A player with T8.5/S12 gear will always have way better stats (more damage, healing, HP, survivability) than somebody with T5.5/S13 gear.

    The difference between S12 and S13 is minor, for the whole set it maybe changes for like 30k SP while 1 piece of PvE already does 50k.

    Think about it like this: As a PvP player you are in need of completing ALL AVAILABLE content of PvE players, in order to be competitive in PvP. This comparison might sound stupid but it is like PvE players would need to farm 65k AP to be able to do PvE competitive.
    Please re-read post I edited it and look at the 2 lowest comments.
    Last edited by Kwesi; 07-26-2018 at 03:39 PM.

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    Even tought i dont play this server anymore, But i agree on this +1
    Last edited by daddyjones; 07-26-2018 at 06:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwesi View Post
    Head: 4740 AP(430 tokens)
    Neck: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Shoulder: 3750 AP(340 tokens)
    Cloak: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Chest: 4300 AP(390 tokens)
    Wrist: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Hands: 3750 AP(340 tokens)
    Waist: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Legs: 4300 AP(390 tokens)
    Boots: 2850 AP(255 tokens)
    Rings: 2350 AP(215 tokens)
    Trinkets: 4500 AP(410 tokens)
    One handed weapons: 5500 AP(500 tokens)
    Off handed weapons: 2140 AP(195tokens)
    Two handed weapons/ranged: 7940 AP(720 tokens)
    Offhands: 2500 AP(230 tokens)
    Wands: 3500 AP(320 tokens)


    Rating requirements:
    Head: 1950
    Shoulder: 2000
    Chest: 1700
    Legs: 1650
    Gloves: 1600
    Trinkets: 1750
    Weapons/offhands 2000
    Wand 1800


    This needs to be a 2v2 or 3v3 rating not both.


    Here is an imaginary EST for how long it will take.
    If you do CTA for a whole week and get flush(1k arena points) you will get 2750 AP
    Not including pvp quests


    Total price for a full set 64305(this is without considering pve pieces)
    Estimated time for full s13: 22 weeks.
    Current time for a full set: 129k AP= 46 weeks
    I did not include ranged weapon cost in any calculations. No1 uses that thats why.
    I halved the current prices and corrected it to look more like wotlk pricings, and I feel like this would be the magic number. It is still a lot of AP, but considering there is pvp quests and 250 AP CTA's this seems fair to me. But let me know what you guys think

    I also want to make sure everyone understands the prices. 22 weeks is for FULL pvp both weps and full set. Realisticly for a player using more pve its going to take less than 15 weeks

    There are also a lot of people wanting to add pvp quests for s13 like the ones for s12 and s11 arena win quests. I totally support this, but it's up to the staff

    And a lot of players really like the orange colour, so can we have legendary s13 items please?
    +11111111111111111111111111

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